tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4170913783015287649.post5556938342955053903..comments2024-03-26T08:09:33.829+00:00Comments on The Plastic Mancunian: Am I Cultured?Plastic Mancunianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01864213919913476168noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4170913783015287649.post-37386370423177953932014-03-04T21:20:10.852+00:002014-03-04T21:20:10.852+00:00Hi Chris,
Don't get me started on Jazz!
We, ...Hi Chris,<br /><br />Don't get me started on Jazz!<br /><br />We, too, are kindred spirits.<br /><br />:-)<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />PMPlastic Mancunianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01864213919913476168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4170913783015287649.post-42994734800906521072014-03-04T18:56:48.746+00:002014-03-04T18:56:48.746+00:00Dear PM,
I consider myself terribly cultured.
I ...Dear PM,<br /><br />I consider myself terribly cultured.<br /><br />I am well read and educated.<br /><br />I hate Shakespeare (sooo overrated).<br /><br />I hate Jazz (a syncopated cacophony of dissonant chaos)<br /><br />I love metal.<br /><br />And so on...<br /><br />In my observation being considered "cultured" and/or "intellectual" is a case of the King's new clothing. Essentially, if you don't meet the criteria you are, of course, a plebeian and can attach to oneself any number of similar class-ridden pejorative adjectives.<br /><br />The definition of "culture", "cultured" and "intellectual" is defined by a small group of elitist, privileged, inadequate and insecure people who would like to keep the great unwashed and uneducated masses (i.e. you) out of their controlling pseudo-aristocratic pretentious diminutive club.<br /><br />...and I said all that without resorting to very colourful and sexually explicit metaphor. WOW!Chris X.http://www.themountainphotographer.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4170913783015287649.post-56024274220633811322014-03-02T14:20:25.294+00:002014-03-02T14:20:25.294+00:00Hi Jackie,
I don't mind people liking Shakesp...Hi Jackie,<br /><br />I don't mind people liking Shakespeare, I just don't like his work myself. To be fair it is the realm of pseudo intellectuals to look down on people because of what they like. Most normal people don't care.<br /><br />:-)<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />PMPlastic Mancunianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01864213919913476168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4170913783015287649.post-32501510532184058972014-03-02T13:20:27.662+00:002014-03-02T13:20:27.662+00:00No, you are not a philistine, although you are wro...No, you are not a philistine, although you are wrong about much of Shakespeare, sorry. (Some of it is not great - he was too prolific to be great all the time).<br />We like what we like - we can't all like the same stuff, no bearing on intelligence at all.<br />I have always loved books and art, but the older I get funnily enough the less patience I have with some of the "culture" you're talking about, and I find these days I often discard that part of the paper without reading it, which my younger self would be quite surprised at.Jackie Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06322613989851869319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4170913783015287649.post-4048491659108759522014-03-01T10:37:35.929+00:002014-03-01T10:37:35.929+00:00Hi River,
We are kindred spirits. I totally agree...Hi River,<br /><br />We are kindred spirits. I totally agree with your comment.<br /><br />:0)<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />PMPlastic Mancunianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01864213919913476168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4170913783015287649.post-71320873593433154322014-03-01T09:21:57.127+00:002014-03-01T09:21:57.127+00:00Culture is over rated. I certainly don't want ...Culture is over rated. I certainly don't want to read books where I need a dictionary or thesaurus to understand every second word, nor do I wish to listen to music where the notes shatter light bulbs and the words cannot be understood. High brow movies? Meh, give me a good action thriller anytime. Give me real people who don't look down their noses at me because I don't buy a complete new wardrobe every season. Riverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794655013673748992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4170913783015287649.post-77241691635743558192014-02-28T23:14:09.247+00:002014-02-28T23:14:09.247+00:00Hi DrB,
I am most definitely NOT a tub of yoghurt...Hi DrB,<br /><br />I am most definitely NOT a tub of yoghurt (though some people may consider me such).<br /><br />:-)<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />PMPlastic Mancunianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01864213919913476168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4170913783015287649.post-5225211825219160292014-02-28T23:13:06.112+00:002014-02-28T23:13:06.112+00:00Hi Jeremy,
Excellent comment, if you don't mi...Hi Jeremy,<br /><br />Excellent comment, if you don't mind me saying so.<br /><br />Personally, I hate opera - I think it ruins classical music - BUT that is my opinion and I respect the fact that you love it.<br /><br />That's an excellent point about "art having to be explained". If you go to the Tate then you will undoubtedly spot somebody trying to do just that. Art, to me, is personal. If you like, you like it. If you don't you don't . Same with music - same with books.<br /><br />Poetry? Please start, Jeremy - please!!!!<br /><br />:-)<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />PMPlastic Mancunianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01864213919913476168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4170913783015287649.post-17195615209810327592014-02-28T22:53:32.567+00:002014-02-28T22:53:32.567+00:00No, Mr PM, if you are not a a tub of yoghurt, you ...No, Mr PM, if you are not a a tub of yoghurt, you are not cultured.Drbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4170913783015287649.post-73281946063131246602014-02-28T19:53:00.266+00:002014-02-28T19:53:00.266+00:00Excellent question PM.
I agree with your summatio...Excellent question PM.<br /><br />I agree with your summation, that liking all that middle class crap doesn't constitute 'Culture'<br /><br />I love classical music, including opera. I think it enriches my existence, but I love also rock music. I don't think that prig is the new classical though. Just adding some keyboards is not enough.<br /><br />I was talking to a friend today about something similar. We concluded that if art has to be explained, then it has failed. Shakespeare may have been funny in its day but now it either needs to be translated into modern english or left in a museum.<br />Similarly with films or other art forms. Lincoln for example seems to me to be lacking in substance but over wordy. I hate it when people analyse films for sub text and come out with all those psycho babble words like the 'narrative arc' etc. Kermode is a pretentious twit. Actors are just people pretending to be some one else yet they bleat on about how draining it is.<br />Poetry, don't get me started...<br /><br />I think being cultured has to be how you treat other people. Many who consider themselves cultured, look down on others, just as the Pharisees saw themselves as superior. <br /><br />I always laugh that some feel superior because they can speak french, yet go to a scummy suburb of a french city and you'll find three year olds who can speak it much better.<br />Most 'culture' is just an affectation.<br /><br />More to follow ...jeremy northhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14619517364832117418noreply@blogger.com